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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:58 am
hi boat, hi all and especially hi Age and hi Spawnsy,
despite I wasn't really involved nor impaired due to this, in the end very sad, story, I had followed it due to the potential huge impact on the community.
Therefore I allow my self a short comment from the heart: I think all essential has been said, discussed, re-discussed, several well taken implication had been brought on their way and, please, if it isn't too hard for everybody, " LET THIS BE THE END OF IT".
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:59 pm
I know I have not been to active of late apart from the odd post, but I am completely in the dark as to what kicked all this off in the first place? was it something said within discord? or on the forum regarding discord? all I know is that we ALL decided to change over to discord , and tbh I thought we were all supposed to be adult in here, at the very least there is NO reason or exception to start blatently throwing abuse at other members, but then I suppose you can never please all of the members all of the time , its just a shame some decide to throw there rattles out the pram over a minor dispute.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:00 pm
- Yes my comments where flippant and a small mark on comedy, however I am there on my own discord because one of the people I play with got lots of grief due to an issue with his name not appearing on discord for some, despite my attempts to fix it I didn't do it within the measly 12 hours I was granted admin power which got revoked, so I continued to mainly stay with a few people on another discord where the people I enjoy gaming with meet easily and regularly they are all admins and they all can invite whoever they like. I did however come into the EBS discord to play with others during this time. (I didn't join Spawnsys personal server though?!?!)
- Whilst I do not entirely know of Hawkeyes issues I did see how he was dealt with in this post and everything he said was shot do with a smarmy sense of we don't need nor care about your complaints which made him rage.. this is what got my goat and whilst yes Spawnsy it does take two you as the top end of this community I feel you could of approached in a whole different way in my eyes.
Age banning me
- Actually this is true and everyone remembers except ironically Age and you? I was banned for over a week from the server and couldn't play because he disproved of my stabbing repeatedly. Ask any of the old BF lot. But I mean obviously I'm lieing or just trying to scare off new people? I did however find it hilarious despite my frustrations at not being able to play until the Grumpy Sod came back online.
The rest of it.....
So I didn't reply because until 01:30am the next day I was on destiny doing raids (These things are important to me
) I did state this too you and wasn't ignoring you, I was busy doing why I am even here in the first place unwinding with people I enjoy hanging out with!
And to just summarise my pissing and moaning for no reason, I am raged at how I am spoken to because sometimes I don't agree with the treatment of some people, the many hoops we have just to get to play a bloody game online with someone else. If discord wasn't so locked down or admin only we wouldn't even be here in the first place (I know different now). Then fix what...fix me just be being continually shat on, fix the need for people to post shit here in the first place, fix your vice admiral Bill (who I do like) being a shit admin with his shit attitude, two posts both summarise the percieved attitude of senior people in certain circumstances.
I disagree with something If I just get called a shit stirrer on FB by someone I thought was a friend. Maybe I did vent out of place, but in my eyes I'm still here trying to defend the small fish like myself all be it perhaps stupidly out of place.
I feel like I am rambling and all I can remember is to say Bill you grumpy bastard thanks for the input!
I guess all I want is to see access become even easier. Ability to use discord (I know its changed still), so I don't use the forum and may not always be about, how did this stop you all from dis-trusting me to be a fecking admin on discord Jesus. All I wanted to do was make sure randoms could get in easier.
Anyway I never wanted to leave EBS but I feel from some of the things said directly to me which I won't disclose because it was a personal conversation made feel like I needed too. I always loved the company of many from EBS and hope to retain you as friends and wish to game with you all for the future but understand for whatever reasons we don't.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:11 pm
Discord is not and has not been 'locked down' anyone can invite anyone. And it's been that way for ages. What are you on about?
Members can also kick/mute/defean now too - to handle pubbies who might troll.
We've tried to be as flexible as we can to help people out.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:28 pm
Side note. That stuff you said about Bill is utter shite.
He's been running the BF from his own account and under his own supervision for months. And has paid for it more than once too, out of his own pocket.
He only said what he did because he's fed up with all the arguing. Like all of us are.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:44 pm
There it is, you completely ignored everything I said that I was asked for, answer with yeah well look at discord now (I even acknowledge its changed for the better) then go on to say you can be an arsehole if you pay for it?
I wasn't discrediting Bills furious BF efforts nor admin to be honest merely saying if one can say shit then why cant the other? Who isn't bored of arguing. But Im asked for stuff I give it and I still get grump replies!
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:26 pm
Why do I feel like people are using Google Translate into Russian, and then back into English to answer each post?
FFS, people are spending a lot of time and effort behind the scenes trying to discuss this so we can understand why a few people have the hump and to a man, the ones trying to say they have the hump, or defend the people who got the hump, have not made one coherent point. Seriously.
All the admin are on this in the background, spending personal time trying to understand and answer the points and it's no wonder we are getting exasperated.
I can't talk for him but I am guessing why Age didn't respond to every point you made Lynx, is cos he just picked the salient ones, rather than answering everything again. Can't blame him tbh (keep reading before you bust a poo out
Sometimes people are just looking for a fight and nothing you can do can resolve it until they have had the fight or get bored. I feel like we have reached that point here. Sorry. Want to fix it, tried to fix it, it just feels like someone standing in the street waving a can of Stella shouting 'Come on ya bazzurds, I'll fuggin takes youze all'.
Talking of which, I think the point Lynx made about Bill was in jest like I did, only it doesn't come across like that cos its in the middle of the rest of the stuff.
Could Age have been more respectful in his reply above? Why yes, possibly. But why should he? when people are throwing stuff around? He's human and is defending his friends and team, just as you defended Hawkeye (a convo which I missed, so can't comment on).
If everyone had this convo face to face, it wouldn't have got here. Trust me. People can read expressions and eyes and know when it's in jest and when it's an important point. May I suggest we all just have a day or two to leave this, and take it offline to discuss? I don't have a life really, I talk for Britain at Gold Medal level and GF is away with work so I am happy to come on here and yak back and forth but everyone else has families and shit so probably don't want to.
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:30 pm
Actually I made a mistake. Lynx did make a coherent point about being a stabby stabby pain in the arse which got him a temp ban for ungentlemanly conduct. Probably because I bitched about it so much and threaten to burn his house down, it was felt that some cooling off time was needed and Age got fed up with me bitching. BTW - I got warned about the threats to burn house down, same rule 'conduct unbecoming' but most acknowledged I wasn't serious and didn't know where he lived anyway.
But the rest of it I have no idea
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:46 am
I didn't reply to everything because frankly anything I say (or don't say) will get picked apart and argued over apparently.
Also some of it was clearly just trying to argue over nothing or things that happened to 6, 7, 8 years ago? (because you were trolling and annoying the hell out everyone).
Throw away rude comments about Bill.
Giving admin powers was my stupid mistake. Should have thought about that first as you only wanted them for one reason. Not to actually help out in the community.
And its funny you call me a "so called friend" but thought it best to argue in public rather than just send me a helpful private message
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:22 am
I'm locking this topic now as there's nothing constructive or useful in here. Spawnsy already made a long and detailed reply on it. And we're just arguing over nothing. If people want to talk, please PM me or if you feel like you can't talk to me, PM Spawnsy or someone in else who you like - Bill, Stujb, ProjectBlue, Taran... The list of lovely and helpful people goes on and on.