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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by 0v3rz34l0u5 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:45 pm

A smaller case may cause issues with the new gear, mainly because of the size of it! I know from the experience that you need a bigger case for water cooling, but not so big for a standard CPU cooler. How much space is the aperture in the office table?
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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Ztranier » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:49 pm

ahoy anderson,
it might be a good idea to read what gorlamy posted on Spawncys my turn threat, thats quite clearig up the mess from my Point of view

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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Anderson » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:27 am

hi sir, Lieutenant 0v3rz34l0u5,

thank you again for your constant enthusiasm in helping me. The office table box which is closed anywhere than front (top, bottom, back and 2 sides) is height 60 and width 50cm, so there is probably bad air flow within that furniture. So I have some worries if the new system, however with small number of components will get hot on full gaming level, since the 4 cooler run always 100% on demand (self controlled). Would a heat check of my running system help? which tool to use?

Ty again.
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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Anderson » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:29 am

@ztrainier,

thank too for help, I read through but will re-read for potentially specially tips.
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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by 0v3rz34l0u5 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:26 pm

I use CorsairLink (mainly because I have a Corsair PSU and Water Cooler). The good thing, it’s free! :-D
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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Elite-Guard » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:50 pm

Perhaps a case to look into; http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/pro ... model=RV05
I have this case and had the same problem with heat dispersion in a micro-atx case. If this doesn't keep your bits and pieces cool, nothing will.
The air is sucked in underneath and pushed out at the top thanks to 2 massive 180mm fans (included).
As watercooling I use the Hydro Series H45; http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-seri ... cpu-cooler
My standard clock for my AMD fx 6350 CPU is 3.9 and now overclocked to 4.5 which gives me a temp of around 55 under full load, while my case temp stay's around 35.
Only downsides about the case are that it can get a bit noisy and that there is no optical storage, however that last one you can buy ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/SilverStone-SS ... +++++SOD03 ) but that sets you back another 93 pounds and it is the only one which fits. (as I did found out :Wall: )

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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Anderson » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:45 pm

Dear Elite Guard,

Thank you so much for your great and helpfully thoughs in regards to my specific problem. I have to See where i can get this Parts, however,
Thank you.
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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Gorlami_Raverderche » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:45 pm

Hope I'm not too late here. Your PSU is too low, you are leaving no room for any overclocking. Get a 700W at least. It only costs perhaps 30 EUR more, and there is no other downside. The power draw is gonna be the same as a lower wattage one on the same system load, high capacity PSU just has higher max power.

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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Chris_86 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:49 am

Hi Anderson, my personal observations:

Power supply is a little too low for that rig and they depreciate over time, often by a fair amount, leading to possible crashes in the future even if it works on day-one. In any case a weaker power supply will run too hot. I would go for a 750 watt or above, since power supplies are most efficient when they're at about 50% load or below. Corsair, Super Flower, or Seasonic tend to have the best reputations. Bigger power supplies run cooler for the same given power draw. Look for 80+ Bronze or 80+ Gold ratings, the higher the better really.

The new CoffeeLake Intel i5 and i7 CPUs have just been released YESTERDAY, so I would probably jump on that boat since they're moving up to 6-core. Alternatively, you're probably going to find the Kaby Lake i7 7700K on sale shortly, since it's being bettered by the CoffeeLake i7 8700K. Even if you don't overclock, the K series processors have slightly higher speeds than the non-K variants for only an extra £30, and you have the confidence knowing that Intel have binned them as capable of running at higher speeds than base; this alone is encouraging for something you're probably going to keep for 3 or more years.

CPU cooler? I would probably suggest the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. It's only about £28, but it's very good. Just look at the reviews. If liquid cooling, Corsair H100, but that's a big jump and not really that worth it if you're not overclocking.

Dominator RAM really isn't worth it. It's bling, but if bling's your thing, fine, but I personally look at Corsair's LPX or LED series. 3,000MHz seeems to be a good speed, maybe 3,200MHz. Anything higher and you may need to sit down having a shitty Saturday morning tuning things. Go for 2x8GB, that way you have two slots left on an ATX motherboard to use if you want 32GB at a later date.

Your motherboard is a completely personal choice; how many USB ports do you need? Do you need WiFi? Do you want headers for RGB LED strips? You may wish to get a PCIe USB expansion card with your rig too (Startech are good). One thing I always look for are motherboards with inbuilt debug LEDs, which give you a two-digit numeric code during post and can tell you what has gone wrong when the PC fails to POST. Other people couldn't care about that. It's up to you - do your research because the motherboard is the hardest thing to change. Don't skimp on it though since it's the second-most important component on your rig, after your power supply.

SSDs, if they're M.2, make sure they're NVME drives (3,000 MBps read), not SATA (500 MBps read). If SATA, you may as well just buy 2.5" SATA SSDs rather than waste your motherboard's M.2 slot on something the same speed.

Cases, again, personal. Some people hate side windows, others have to have tempered glass everywhere (me!). But I would say that INWIN are appalling for airflow. Corsair are solid, NZXT are famously easy to build with, BeQuiet are good ... HardwareCanucks on YouTube and OC3D do really good case reviews.

Happy hunting.

edit: for cases, watch out re where you're supposed to put HDDs or optical drives, since they're often taking up the same space at the expense of each other. On my Corsair Crystal 460x I had to use a hacksaw to fit my HDD, since the radiator from the AIO Corsair liquid cooler encorached on the HDD bays.
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Re: New hardware 8_2017

Post by Anderson » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:46 pm

hi Inaccurate_Panda,

thank you so much for that great reply with all that so valuable and extra extended thoughts.

i will use all your and the other expert's thoughts to build my rig.

thank you and you all.
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